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hedo2002
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I do not consent! Sept 6, 2015 7:52:53 GMT -5

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Post by hedo2002 on Sept 6, 2015 7:52:53 GMT -5

Well my home isn't "in my hand", nor is the land upon which it sits, therefore by yourlogic I don't own either? Society has evolved from the days of people wandering the lands in search of "freedom" you have freedoms as agreed to by all of society. Now I agree most of society doesn't engage themselves, and speak up for what we as a collective want, rather we turn this over to elected officials who do the bidding on our collective behalf. If one wants to be free then disconnect from society, this means using none of the "advantages" created by the collective, health care, education, protection, etc.

JoeBass
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I do not consent! Sept 6, 2015 10:00:18 GMT -5 via Tapatalk

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Post by JoeBass on Sept 6, 2015 10:00:18 GMT -5

Playing devil's advocate here: Isn't Bitcoin a currency that was just introduced? The US probably didn't want that approved either. (Granted, I really do not know much about it)
hedo2002, you know you are taking his statement too literally. However, as an example, when people advise to invest in gold, you want the actual gold "in your hand", not some worthless paper that says you own some gold. That to me is akin of this 'cloud' that people speak of. To quote Anderson Cooper "Who is cloud? I have not met cloud. We have not have had coffee or dinner. I do not trust cloud with my personal things."
As far as the USA 's currency is concerned, there is a real possibility that the Chinese currency will become the new global standard, if the US doesn't clean up their act.

hedo2002
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I do not consent! Sept 7, 2015 8:27:57 GMT -5

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Post by hedo2002 on Sept 7, 2015 8:27:57 GMT -5

Sept 6, 2015 10:00:18 GMT -5 JoeBass said:

Playing devil's advocate here: Isn't Bitcoin a currency that was just introduced? The US probably didn't want that approved either. (Granted, I really do not know much about it)
hedo2002, you know you are taking his statement too literally. However, as an example, when people advise to invest in gold, you want the actual gold "in your hand", not some worthless paper that says you own some gold. That to me is akin of this 'cloud' that people speak of. To quote Anderson Cooper "Who is cloud? I have not met cloud. We have not have had coffee or dinner. I do not trust cloud with my personal things."
As far as the USA 's currency is concerned, there is a real possibility that the Chinese currency will become the new global standard, if the US doesn't clean up their act.

Yes of course I am taking his position literally to point out that his premise is flawed. Just as is the premise that driving is a right. It is a privledge bestowed upon us by the state, (literal term not referring to US system), by the collective. We as a society decided long ago that to be permitted to drive on the roads built and paid for by the collective society, we must adhere to restrictions placed upon us by that very same state. If the "free man" movement was true believers then they would have opposed the imposition of the restrictions when they were proposed and implemented not try to rewrite history now.

Yes, most of our daily lives are now subjected to regulations and restrictions, even back in the 1800's there were restrictions and regulatons put into place by society, (IE it was illegal to rob a stage coach or a bank)... you had to "register" your land as being yours and stake claim to it By then free mans assertions if I find a parcel of land that no one currently occupies then I should simply be able to set up a homestead on it, as it is my right to wander the land in total freedom.

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I do not consent! Oct 8, 2015 7:59:13 GMT -5

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Post by AGAVE on Oct 8, 2015 7:59:13 GMT -5

Here's another poor black boy, he's a bad parker, taze his azz and throw him in jail!
youtu.be/t05yRbDAFmc

Most of these criminal bonehead cops ate fat little power tripping white guys that want to shoot you.
I bet he was a total loser growing up, hence his choice of profession to try and compensate.

The definition of insanity is > Repeating the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.
Like voting, or Charlie Brown trying to kick that football.